Very weird how calling the Mass 'the sacred mysteries' has become so popular now among the novus ordo clergy when they constantly do everything in their power to desacralize and demysteriorize everything about it. Such a tragedy.
That phrase as you know comes from the Novus Ordo text itself: "sacra mysteria." As you say, it would be nice if it were somehow reflected in the conduct of the liturgy and its entire ethos. There's only so much a priest can do to fix a jalopy.
True but my fear is that due to the indoctrination some of them might think that they actually are acting in a manner that is sacred and mysterious. Although I am going to make an educated guess that many of them would apply those terms only to the confection of the Sacrament and they likely think that all the rest (except maybe the homily and the Gospel) is just window dressing whose presence they can't really account for.
Neither the concept "sacred" nor the concept "mysterious" had any meaning for me whatsoever growing up as a Catholic at a suburban parish. They began to swim into my ken during my years at Thomas Aquinas College, with the unicorn Latin Novus Ordo, but I'd say it was chant & polyphony that most of all awakened in me a sense of the transcendent. And then I discovered the TLM and it was like walking through the wardrobe into Narnia, except for real.
In Dante's Divine Comedy, the soul of Virgil guides Dante through the Abyss, Limbo, Inferno and Purgatorio, up to the Mount of Purgatory. He cannot guide Dante through Paradiso but must return to Limbo.
Various commentators have said that Virgil could not go to Heaven (Paradiso) because he was a pagan. It would also be true to say that Virgil is the "voice of reason" and cannot enter Paradiso because there is a limit to human reason. Reason is the handmaid, not the mistress of, Faith. Therefore Beatrice (the voice of Faith) must come down to the Mount of Purgatory and guide Dante through Paradiso.
For Virgil to go to Heaven would be like Caesar crossing the Rubicon. Whereas Caesar could cross the Rubicon and create civil war, Virgil must (so to speak) stay on his side of the Rubicon. Human reason must yield to the Catholic Faith.
Wholeheartedly agree on all counts though for my part I would add in the Divine Office and its sacralizing of the various hours of the day and seasons of the year. And I guess in my case it was like wandering into Lothlorien
Beautiful thoughts and observations. I've often thought this is precisely the reason Christ spoke in parables -- so that we'd have to "work" at it to "find the meaning", which itself would continue to grow each time we would ponder it.
That's exactly right. As the Fathers say, we are not given the fruit only, but the fruit in the shell, and we have to work at opening it to get inside. The words of the parable are like the shell of the nut, and our meditation is the nutcracker that breaks it open to reveal the flesh.
If I may guess, those who wanted aspects of the TLM removed, or altogether the TLM itself, there is a hidden or unvocalized desire to be in control of how the sacrifice of the mass is to be experienced and offered. Instead of being under the influence of the Holy Spirit all throughout, His part is marginalized.This desire to minimize the presence of God in our lives has its roots of the rebellion in the heaven.
I find it maddening (and not really mystifying) that so many neo-Catholics (as Chris Ferrara calls them in The Great Facade) are so cavalier about depriving so many devout Catholics of the graces so much more readily available in the traditional Mass in the service of their insatiable appetite to understand everything immediately. But then the same people would say I'm just an old so and so.
Very weird how calling the Mass 'the sacred mysteries' has become so popular now among the novus ordo clergy when they constantly do everything in their power to desacralize and demysteriorize everything about it. Such a tragedy.
That phrase as you know comes from the Novus Ordo text itself: "sacra mysteria." As you say, it would be nice if it were somehow reflected in the conduct of the liturgy and its entire ethos. There's only so much a priest can do to fix a jalopy.
True but my fear is that due to the indoctrination some of them might think that they actually are acting in a manner that is sacred and mysterious. Although I am going to make an educated guess that many of them would apply those terms only to the confection of the Sacrament and they likely think that all the rest (except maybe the homily and the Gospel) is just window dressing whose presence they can't really account for.
Neither the concept "sacred" nor the concept "mysterious" had any meaning for me whatsoever growing up as a Catholic at a suburban parish. They began to swim into my ken during my years at Thomas Aquinas College, with the unicorn Latin Novus Ordo, but I'd say it was chant & polyphony that most of all awakened in me a sense of the transcendent. And then I discovered the TLM and it was like walking through the wardrobe into Narnia, except for real.
In Dante's Divine Comedy, the soul of Virgil guides Dante through the Abyss, Limbo, Inferno and Purgatorio, up to the Mount of Purgatory. He cannot guide Dante through Paradiso but must return to Limbo.
Various commentators have said that Virgil could not go to Heaven (Paradiso) because he was a pagan. It would also be true to say that Virgil is the "voice of reason" and cannot enter Paradiso because there is a limit to human reason. Reason is the handmaid, not the mistress of, Faith. Therefore Beatrice (the voice of Faith) must come down to the Mount of Purgatory and guide Dante through Paradiso.
For Virgil to go to Heaven would be like Caesar crossing the Rubicon. Whereas Caesar could cross the Rubicon and create civil war, Virgil must (so to speak) stay on his side of the Rubicon. Human reason must yield to the Catholic Faith.
Wholeheartedly agree on all counts though for my part I would add in the Divine Office and its sacralizing of the various hours of the day and seasons of the year. And I guess in my case it was like wandering into Lothlorien
Beautiful thoughts and observations. I've often thought this is precisely the reason Christ spoke in parables -- so that we'd have to "work" at it to "find the meaning", which itself would continue to grow each time we would ponder it.
That's exactly right. As the Fathers say, we are not given the fruit only, but the fruit in the shell, and we have to work at opening it to get inside. The words of the parable are like the shell of the nut, and our meditation is the nutcracker that breaks it open to reveal the flesh.
If I may guess, those who wanted aspects of the TLM removed, or altogether the TLM itself, there is a hidden or unvocalized desire to be in control of how the sacrifice of the mass is to be experienced and offered. Instead of being under the influence of the Holy Spirit all throughout, His part is marginalized.This desire to minimize the presence of God in our lives has its roots of the rebellion in the heaven.
I find it maddening (and not really mystifying) that so many neo-Catholics (as Chris Ferrara calls them in The Great Facade) are so cavalier about depriving so many devout Catholics of the graces so much more readily available in the traditional Mass in the service of their insatiable appetite to understand everything immediately. But then the same people would say I'm just an old so and so.